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Thanks for this thread, and thanks for the videos showing how you actually created the patches. I just bought a used HD500 (not the X) to get me by until I can afford the X or better, and I'm still getting to I know the board. I find seeing how you created them extremely helpful. Also, it has at least one foot switch that will need to be replaced, so I'll definitely be digging into that video later this evening.
..except that the X version has 20% more DSP resources available thus lifting the reachable DSP maximum limit, to allow if/when needed the creation of particularly complex patches that require more resources. .
to avoid the time lag (in some cases inappropriate) that happens in changing patches, a trick is to build 2-patches-in-1 taking advantage of the 2 parallel chains (which in this case alternate), creating a normal and independent rig in each of the parallel paths.
I tend to build quite simple rigs 90% of the times..but when I tried to create 2 patches in 1, or patches with a blend of 2 amp models for new sounds plus a minimum of effects, I reached the limit quite easily.actually there are several good reasons to create 2-patches-in-1 presets when needed, for example:1 - to avoid time lag when changing patches2 - not to suddenly cut the delay tail during patch change3 - to play 2 different instruments (eg bass and guitar) connected to the same POD at the same timeand then the many possible combinations of 2 amps and/or cabs and/or mics you could do to create different new sounds from those obtainable with rigs based on a single amp.
Hey guys, I thought I'd make this a separate post so that it's easier to find for anyone who might be having some issues.The patches for the HD500 do not import directly into the HD500X Edit software at this time. They use different file formats. There is a work-around that I posted earlier, and is being passed around now.All you have to do is change the extension on the patch files:For individual patches, change the extension from .h5e to .5xeFor bundles, change the file extension from .h5b to .5xbFor setlists, change the file extension from .h5s to .5xsI have found no inconsistencies among the patches from the HD500 Edit to the HD500X Edit using this method. I don't know if/when Line 6 will update the software to allow backwards compatibility, but in the mean time, you can use this method to get your 500 patches to your 500X.
I am thinking the extension difference will allow for keeping your old 500 bundles without the fear of over writing them during a save, this was a concern I had. Also, I don't want to have to re-create my patches in a new rig, as I have (at least) 2 1/2 user banks full of my own stuff that I have developed and use all of the time.
We received the new hd500x here at the Shania Twain show in Las Vegas. Once I downloaded the 500x editor, re-named Cory Churko's set list extension, loaded the setlist into the 500x, and installed the 500x on his pedalboard, we ran sound check and a full show last night and all worked great!! Seamless!! Thank you Line 6 for the work around!!!
Out of curiosity will there be a way to import or load HD500 or HD500x patches? Just curious if I am going to have to rebuild my HD500 patches if/when I purchase the unit. Just wishful thinking on my part.
I'm likely to get a Helix, and am expecting to have to re-construct my favorite patches, but in reality, I'd think it would be theoretically possible to import patches. The patches are nothing more than spec's or instructions for the HD500(X) to put together this amp and that speaker with this DEP setting and that mike, and that FX block with these settings in these block positions... The Helix has so many more possibilities that if you make use of them, there'd be no way to export back to a 500(X).
This is somewhat analogous to when the 500X came out -- the saved 500 patches themselves were not loadable from the PC directly to the 500X, but it was only the file extension. If you copy the patch file and rename it with the new file extension, or drag and drop, the file works in the 500X. With the expanded DSP of the 500X though, if you loaded a patch up close to it's DSP limit, if you went back to the 500 with the patch from the 500X, it would error out, as it would not have the DSP to do the deal.... I have a 500X and a backup 500 -- I keep them in sync fairly regularly -- back & forth with set lists and patches, etc. I don't make use of dual amp patches, so rarely have I had issues with files from the 500X not working in the 500 -- once, I think, I had too many FX, or DSP heavy FX and the 500 choked on it. I think I went to a less DSP intensive reverb -- it was no biggie, as I recall.
This is more difficult because each manufacturers DSP modeler has its own peculiar strengths and weaknesses, but you can build a library of patches for your new DSP Amp Modeling multi-FX unit by reviewing the settings of patches you desire on third party pedals - as long as they have an Editor that can load patches for review "off line" without the need to own the genuine multi-FX unit for the tones you seek - recreate your favorite patches as follows:
1) Download the "Guitar MultiFX Y" patches you have interest in, and have a ballpark idea what they should sound like. 2) Install and launch the "Guitar MultiFX Y" Editor - just must confirm the Editor allows you to view and edit all patch parameters without the actual ""Guitar MultiFX Y" actually present and connected via USB. )3) Load the desired "Guitar MultiFX Y" patch of interest4) Inspect and document all the control settings and FX parameters for "Guitar MultiFX Y"! (hint, use a spreadsheet app, or take many screenshots of the FX parameter Edit screens) 5) Close the "Guitar MultiFX Y" Editor6) Launch the Editor for your current Guitar MultiFX unit, or navigate the Helix LCD.
I know this is an old thread but I also want to reproduce a couple of patches form the HD500 to my Helix. Simply because I liked them and want to use them in the future. Specifically I was looking on how to build the HD500 patch called "FX Heavy, "Filter Trem". I've seriously tried but found it nearly impossible to replicate this patch on the Helix. This guy is demoing it. If anyone can productively point me in the right direction without reaming me for not utilizing the superior Helix capabilities (which I do every day) I would appreciate it.
Back from the dead and thought I would give this another try.Summary: I have a Helix and am trying to recreate a HD500 preset (filter trem) on the Helix.Found the HD500 "filter trem" patch and loaded it into the "POD HD500 Edit" app (offline) so I can now see the presets, amps. etc.. Nothing special in the amps, mixer or controllers and while I can see there are multiple effects assigned, only a few effects are actually on.I've attached a screenshots of POD HD500 Edit with the patch loaded (FX screen only)
In POD HD500 Edit I can see which effects are "ON" in the "FX" screen and can see the settings for that preset as well. I did find most of those same effects are available on my Helix in the "legacy" dropdown for similar effects. What I mean by legacy is, when you use the HX Edit for the Helix, and add a "filter" you can select either mono, stereo or legacy in the dropdown and that gives you different options of the filter effect. Line6 maybe added the legacy option for this reason?Anyway I have recreated the preset the best I can and all settings look exact to me, but it does not sounds the same. Some things are close but there is a bunch going on in that patch. I believe my issue is recreating the "pattern tremolo" effect. Does anyone out there have a HD500 and a Helix and the ability to assist? I know it's a big ask for zero reward but it would be nice to recreate that. I've also attached an audio clip of me going through patches on the HD500 in my drummers house so you can hear the patch in more detail if interested. I've also attached an audio clip of the recreated sound playing the same thing. 2ff7e9595c
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